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'Yes Gawd!': The 20 Best Catchphrases From 'RuPaul's Drag Race'

RuPaul's Drag Race, just like its most recent winner Aquaria, officially turns 10 next year (kidding, well at least the latter portion I am).

The show has given us 10 regular seasons and 3 All Stars versions that were chock full of dramatic, emotional and hilarious moments. 

RPDR has also given us more catchprases than any other show out there, to the point where we use them in our daily lives today. And yes, it goes beyond saying "VANJIE" three times while walking backwards.

As many of us are going through major RPDR withdrawal right now (until DragCon in NYC this September), let's count down what we think are the top 20 catchphrases to ever leave some of these queens lips. 

Happy Hump Day Hunties!

 

 

20. "Why y'all acting brand new?": Shea Coulee (Season 9)

 

 

 

19. "This Isn't RuPaul's Best Friend Race!": LaShaun Beyond (Season 4)

 

 

18. "I love a buffet.": Eureka (Season 10)

 

 

17. "Get those nuts away from my face!": Latrice Royale (Season 4)

 

 

16. "OK it's time for dinner!": Miz Cracker (Season 10)

 

 

15. "Choices" and/or "Thank You": Tatianna (Season 2 and All Stars 2)

 

 

14. "I FEEL VERY ATTACKED!": Laganja Estranja (Season 6)

 

 

13. "I just want fried chicken.": Jujubee (All Stars 1)

 

 

12. "Absolutelyyyyyyyyyy.": Gia Gunn (Season 6)

 

 

11. "Water off a duck's back.": Jinkx Monsoon (Season 5)

 

 

10. "GO BACK TO PARTY CITY WHERE YOU BELONG!": Phi Phi O'Hara (Season 4)

 

 

9. "Miss Vanjie... Miss Vanjie... Miss... Vanjie.": Vanessa Vanjie Matteo (Season 10)

 

 

8. "Oh Honey.": Trixie Mattel (Season 7)

 

 

7. "I HAVE HAD IT... OFFICIALLY!": Detox (Season 5)

 

 

6. "You're perfect, you're beautiful, you look like Linda Evangelista, you're a model. Everything about you is perfect. Did you stone those tights?": Aja about Valentina (Season 9)

 

 

5. "Hiiieeeeeeeeee": Alaska (Season 5 and All Stars)

 

 

4. "Party!": Adore Delano (Season 6)

 

 

3. "I don't have a sugar daddy, I've never had a sugar daddy, if I wanted a sugar daddy yes I probably could go out and get one because I am what? Sickening. You could never have a sugar daddy because you are not that kind of girl. Baby everything I have I've worked for and gotten myself. I have built myself up from the ground up you f***ing bitch!": Shangela to Mimi Imfurst (Season 3)

 

 

2. "Not today, Satan.": Bianca Del Rio (Season 6)

 

 

1. "Back rolls?": Alyssa Edwards (Season 5).

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Definitive List: Ranking All The ‘RuPaul’s Drag Race' Queens From 1 to 126

A total of 126, you read that right, one hundred and twenty six queens have sashayed their way into the work room on RuPaul's Drag Race over the past ten years. 

The show, which started off pretty small in 2009, has grown into a multiple Emmy-award winning program that has given a platform to drag like it never has before. 

Many of the queens who competed on the show have taken that platform and done some wonderful things with it. They have developed larger social media followings than many celebrities out there, as all kinds of people are completely enamored with who they are both on and off the show. It's a testament to how the times have changed for the LGBTQ community in terms of acceptance and visibility, and each and every single one of these queens should feel proud about what they have accomplished.

I have come up with, in my own special way, a ranking list of all the queens that have competed since season one. To each their own, of course, but this list only focuses on how they did in their individual seasons. It does not include their lives post-show (for the most part), and it also doesn't mention anything about All Stars as that is a separate entity.

So, without further ado, take a look at who landed where from their time on the best reality competition program in the world. 

1st. Bianca Del Rio (Season 6). A no brainer here. Just a standout drag queen who stayed true to herself the whole time and pulled out an easy win in the end of the show’s best season.

2nd. Alaska (Season 5). Here’s someone who tried out for all five seasons, watched her boyfriend Sharon make it on after his first try and win, and still come through and bust her ass to make it to the end. If Ru ever needs someone to fill in or replace her at some point, it would have to be Alaska as her love for drag and this show is undeniable and her work ethic to get to where she was on that season was downright incredible to see.

3rd. Latrice Royale (Season 4). The Oprah of drag. You just love her. You love her confidence, her laugh, her fashion, her humor… everything. Just an amazing spirit and human being.

4th. Katya (Season 7). Weird and original is a delicious formula, and Katya was the textbook definition of that in S7. Should’ve made it further than she did, but she’s an easy winner in our books all this time later.

5th. Jinkx Monsoon (Season 5). We rooted for Jinkx in season 5 as she had to deal with so much hateration from several other queens and Michelle Visage that it was sort of a foregone conclusion that she would win in the end from all the support she had. And she did.

6th. Bob the Drag Queen (Season 8). Commanded the werk room from day one. Never really faltered. Won in the end. Remained humble. Fin.

7th. Alyssa Edwards (Season 5). One of the most unintentionally funny queens to ever compete on RPDR. All Stars helped cement this, but season 5 helped with it and made her a household name for a variety of reasons from Alyssa’s Secret to “Back Rolls” and so much more.

8th. Sharon Needles (Season 4). Sharon paved the way for future queens who didn’t fit the pageant and glamour aesthetic that the show was sort of known for in its first three seasons. Her type of drag and personality would’ve either got her sent home first or had her go to the distance, and it was beautiful to see her do the latter and take home the crown in the end.

9th. Adore Delano (Season 6). Here’s a queen that could’ve gone home during the first two episodes she was on in her season and then did a complete 180 to almost win the whole thing in the end. Her journey was one that this sort of show was made of, and it was beyond fun to watch as she kept creeping towards the top.

10th. Willam (Season 4). The only queen to be disqualified from the show and still has an IDGAF attitude about it. Willam was the star of season 4 and let that be known while many of the other girls grew frustrated about his attitude. We, the public, loved it, and continue to do so to this day.

11th. Raja (Season 3). Fierce all the way through, took no s**t, was funny, creative, innovative, etc. etc. etc. Easy winner for S3.

12th. Raven (Season 2). The eternal runner up and the true winner of season 2. The best damn makeup artist the show has ever had and a personality that is equally captivating and scary all at the same time (in the best of ways possible).

13th. Detox (Season 5). The people’s queen. Season 5 had so many amazing cast members, none of which came close however to Detox in terms of personality and just being a kickass bitch in every single episode. Was fun to watch from start to end.

14th. Jujubee (Season 2). Is there anyone more loved from this show than Juju? She never won the show, never won a competition… but who CARES! She’s that queen we all want to be, the one we would want to hang out with in high school and helped put this show on the map in its early years.

15th. Sasha Velour (Season 9). So many other queens were deemed front runners in the beginning of season 9 that didn’t really include Sasha. She showed them, time and time again, just how much of a competitor she won, and blew our freaking heads off to earn that win in the end (rose petals. Duh.)

16th. Manila Luzon (Season 3). A good mixture of the four qualities that make up a Drag Race winner but came up short against Raja in the end.

17th. Violet Chachki (Season 7). Jaws dropped every time she came onto the runway. Came there to win… and she did, even if it meant that she wouldn’t be in the best light for most of the season.

18th. Trixie Mattel (Season 7). All Stars not included, Trixie got a raw deal early in season seven but was so freaking well liked that it was a foregone conclusion that she would return. That definitely rings true to this day.

19th. Kim Chi (Season 8). So. Much. Fun. To. Watch. Every outfit was great, no matter what she wore, but she also had a great back story to her in terms of her insecurities and family life. Would’ve won easily if Bob wasn’t in her way.

20th. Aquaria (Season 10). Easily the most fashionable queen from her season and maybe top 5 in all seasons. What was great about Aquaria is that her personality developed so well from someone who read as cold and reserved to somewhat of a sweetheart by the time she took the season 10 crown.

21st. Ginger Minj (Season 7). Should’ve won that season. She’s the type of queen you want to see when you go to a drag show. I still don’t understand to this day how she lost.

22nd. Shea Coulee (Season 9). It was Shea’s game to lose, and it’s a shame that the new “lip sync for the crown” format f***ed that up for her. If that didn’t change, she would have the crown on her head today.

23rd. Chi Chi DeVayne (Season 8). I think a lot of people pegged Chi Chi to go home first but she proved many of us wrong on several levels. Her comedy, fashion sense and likability propelled her into the top four and could’ve easily gotten her a top three spot according to many fans of the show.

24th. BenDeLaCreme (Season 6). Effervescent with a quirky and unique attitude, Ben was easily one of the biggest stars of season 6 and played her drag character extremely well… much to the chagrin of Michelle.

25th. Shangela (Season 2 and 3). Halleloo! She went home first in season 2 only to emerge (out of a box) and dominate the next season. It was a ton of fun to see her take on the “Heathers” and knock a couple of them out in the process as well.

26th. Phi Phi O’Hara (Season 4). The original Drag Race “villain” of sorts… but was she? Phi Phi came ready to win at all costs, and it rubbed the other queens and viewers the wrong way. It’s worth taking a look at the show again, as she really was in it to win it and wasn’t taking anyone’s bulls**t along the way.

27. Nina Flowers (Season 1). Nina was the first queen to make it to the end of her season having never lip synced or be in the bottom two. An arguable winner against the one who took the crown.

28th. Eureka (Season 9 and 10). Would’ve gone the distance in season 9 most likely but made up for it in season 10 to become the only big girl to really have a shot at the crown (other than Ginger).

29th. Naomi Smalls (Season 8). The modeliest (sp?) of models to compete on RPDR, Naomi commanded the werk room the moment she walked in. Not only that, but she had a refreshing and fun personality to boot.

30th. Roxxxy Andrews (Season 5). I will always wonder how different Roxxxy would’ve been if Jinkx Monsoon wasn’t on the season. She spent so much time negatively critiquing her, that if she spent half that effort focusing on herself and how good she was, then she may have actually won the show’s fifth season.

31st. Peppermint (Season 9). Peppermint was the little engine that could in her season as she almost went home a handful of times. Still, she persevered and worked her way into the final two. That is something she should be incredibly proud of.

32. Chad Michaels (Season 4). Chad had a drag aesthetic of yesteryear but made it look great for the time she was on the show. Also, no one will ever do Cher better than she can… even Cher herself.

33rd. Ongina (Season 1). Criminally eliminated early on. She made bald look great in a wig-filled drag world and was fun, honest and exciting to watch in the show’s debut season.

34th. Asia O’Hara (Season 10). Asia was the mother-type on the most recent season and helped many queens out with their aesthetics and emotions. The butterfly thing was hard to watch but it really doesn’t matter as her career right now is brighter than ever (no pun here).

35th. Valentina (Season 9). Love her or hate her… she made good television. Valentina would’ve won season 9, we all know this, but she either forgot the words to a song or wanted to have a dramatic exit. Regardless, she’s become the licorice of Drag Race: you either want to beeline for it or avoid it at all costs in the supermarket.

36th. Kennedy Davenport (Season 7). Kennedy was classic drag in a modern era. Very southern, very pageantry, but it worked and helped her get to the final four in her season. Also her impression of Little Richard proved that a drag queen doesn’t need to impersonate a woman in order for it to be freaking hilarious.

37th. Yara Sofia (Season 3). Hands down one of the top three makeup artists to ever be on the show. Her looks were sickening each and every week, and she should’ve had more wins under her belt if the judges weren’t gagging for Raja’s looks all the time.

38th. Pandora Boxx (Season 2). The top three in season two would’ve been a lot more fun if it was Pandora, Raven and Jujubee. The first really funny queen to ever compete on RPDR where her talent outweighed her fashion choices (proving you don’t need that to win this show).

39th. Bebe Zahara Benet (Season 1). She exuded elegance all throughout season one which seemed to appeal to what RuPaul was looking for in a winner for the show’s first season. That worked wonders for her and helped get her the crown in the end.

40th. Trinity Taylor (Season 9). Trinity called every single person out that needed to be called out (Valentina, Charlie Hides, Eureka) and gave no f***s about it. We need more queens like her to tell it like it is without worrying about a social media backlash.

41st. Monet X Change (Season 10). So freaking lovable. It’s hard to say anything negative about Monet when she was such a joy to watch in season 10. One of the most likable queens to come out of the show in recent seasons, easily.

42nd. Courtney Act (Season 6). Courtney propelled herself into the top three of her season by showing consistent look after look after look while showcasing her phenomenal voice and fun acting talent. She wasn’t going to win against Bianca or Adore IMHO (maybe in another season sure), but she was heck of a lot of fun to watch on and off the runway.

43rd. Pearl (Season 7). Hmm. I would’ve never thought of Pearl as being a top three finalist, but she made it. Not sure how, really, but her whole “waking up” storyline in season 7 sort of helped in that and it got her to the end due to some strong showings as the show progressed.

44th. Tatianna (Season 2). Keep in mind, I’m only including original seasons here. If All Stars was a factor, she would be much higher. Tati was controversial for many reasons but did a really good job at holding her own against Raven and other queens who saw her as less than. She wasn’t and she isn’t… at all.

45th. Miz Cracker (Season 10). So talented. So funny. So original. So misunderstood. So frustrating. Didn’t deserve to go home at all. Calling my cable provider.

46th. Alexis Mateo (Season 3). She won as many challenges as she was in the bottom, it seems, and made it to the final three as the only quote unquote “booger” that season against Raja and Manila Luzon. She did, however, play a great game throughout and kept it real each and every episode.

47th. Carmen Carrera (Season 3). Such a knockout, beauty, etc. Probably the most stunning queen the show had up until that point. She did sort of rely on her body, as Michelle would say, but during the competition but it worked for her and got her very far in a sea of very talented competitors.

48th. Kameron Michaels (Season 10). Proof that quiet can get you far. Kameron is one of only two queens (besides Coco Montrese) to survive three lip syncs. Some thought she coasted throughout S10, but she was just playing a relaxed game while everyone else was pretty much going haywire.

49th. Tyra Sanchez (Season 2). The most controversial winner in RPDR history. Was Tyra good at fashion? Yes. Was she good at anything else? That’s arguable. She may have won but didn’t possess a lot of the characteristics that future winners had even when they first entered the werk room.

50th. Vanessa Vanjie Matteo (Season 10). How someone who went out first became the most memorable part of season 10 is quite frankly unreal. But saying your middle name three times while walking backwards will do that for you.

51st. Alexis Michelle (Season 9). A tad confident some would say but backed it up in a ton of challenges like her impressions of Kris Jenner and Liza Minnelli.

52nd. Joslyn Fox (Season 6). Quite possibly the most underrated queen the show has ever had. Go back and look at her Snatch Game and Reading Challenge performances for those receipts.

53rd. Aja (Season 9). Blunt, brutal, in your face and had a song created over her “aggressively complimenting” Valentina. Awesome.

54th. Miss Fame (Season 7). Could’ve easily been rotten and mean given how pretty she is, but was a simply sweet lady with a fashion sense that was some of the best the show has ever seen.

55th. Acid Betty (Season 8). There is no one like Acid Betty in terms of her makeup artistry and costume construction. She was so much fun to look at, but didn’t really seem like she was having that great of a time… at all.

56th. Darienne Lake (Season 6). Darienne did a good job in some of the challenges, primarily ones that highlighted her comedy ability, but she sort of got lucky in getting herself to the top 4.

57th. Monique Heart (Season 10). I didn’t get the hype with her originally. Now I think she’s awesome, hilarious and one of the most authentic queens to ever step foot into that werk room.

58th. Cynthia Lee Fontaine (Season 8 and 9). Queens like Cynthia are smart when it comes to finding something that is memorable only to them. “Do you want to see my cucu?” or any variation of the word “cucu” proves that point.

59th. Thorgy Thor (Season 8). The Raven of being a runner up in one season. She came close to winning so many challenges that Bob took, and then got kind of bitchy towards the end of it. She didn’t exactly redeem herself in All Stars either.

60th. Milk (Season 6). She got shat on by other queens for challenging drag stereotypes by dressing with a beard or in men’s clothing, but it so worked on her. One of my favorite queens from the best season of RPDR.

61st. Max (Season 7). Max did not deserve to go home that early on. She was uniquely talented in her character and viewpoint, but sadly did a bad Snatch Game impersonation and lost the lip sync later on in the episode.

62nd. Ivy Winters (Season 5). Yes, Ru made her name a catchphrase (it got annoying), but Ivy’s sweet exterior and fashion ability were fun to watch in season 5.

63rd. Trinity K. Bonet (Season 6). Fashion forward but lacked the confidence needed in a season that had a variety of headstrong personalities. Best lip syncer of the season… IMHO.

64th. Shannel (Season 1). Shannel could’ve easily won season one (or at least made it to the end) if she didn’t let her ego get in the way. She represented that classic, Las Vegas type showgirl that is underappreciated in today’s drag world.

65th. Jessica Wild (Season 2). The only queen to impersonate RuPaul really well (sorry, Trixie). Also needs a spot on All Stars at some point.

66th The Vixen (Season 10). Controversial, outspoken, polarizing, unapologetic. Everything we need in a drag queen. There should be more Vixen-types for the upcoming seasons.

67. Kenya Michaels (Season 4). Super fun, stylish, and contrary to popular opinion did a good job as a crazed Beyonce in Snatch Game.

68. Nina Bo’Nina Brown (Season 9). Nina had crazy potential but let her insecurities and demons completely wreck her on S9.

69. Derrick Barry (Season 8). “It’s Britney… bitch?” (question mark is there on purpose.)

70. Jiggy Caliente (Season 4). One of the most lovable queens from a season that was insanely dramatic. Also, the owner of the worst ensemble ever created on the show (we all know what that was).

71. Mariah (Season 3). Study Joan Crawford… last longer. Simple as that.

72. Farrah Moan (Season 9). Became more known for her whining, which was oddly endearing. Plus her epic showdown with Valentina during the reunion was legendary.

73. Coco Montrese (Season 5). Talented queen but didn’t really get a chance to shine as the entire season was focused on her rivalry with Alyssa.

74. Stacey Layne Matthews (Season 3). Her version of Mo'nique in Precious is still one of the best Snatch Game performances of all time.

75. Jaidynn Diore Fierce (Season 7). Criminally underrated.

76. Gia Gunn (Season 6). “How is she though?” and “ABSOLUTELYYYY” are forever embedded in my brain.

77. Blair St. Clair (Season 10). One of the sweetest queens to ever compete, with a sharp eye for fashion. Was eliminated too early, IMHO.

78. Morgan McMichaels (Season 2). Came out the gate a strong contender (won the first challenge) but faded shortly after that.

79th. Laganja Estranja (Season 6). Laganja is proof that creating an exaggerated character doesn't work for every person. 

80th. Robbie Turner (Season 8). Robbie’s shining moment was her Les Chicken Wing performance, but her acting abilities (something she claimed to be an expert at) faltered all over the place.

81st. Delta Work (Season 3). Delta’s insecurities and her blunt attitude towards “the boogers” was her downfall in season 3.

82. Sahara Davenport (Season 2). Sahara had a presence to her that read as extremely regal and poised. It’s something that many other queens wish they had but don’t. Rest in peace, queen.

83. Mayhem Miller (Season 10). I pegged Mayhem to go the distance early on, as she was already so well known outside of RPDR. It just didn’t happen for her, sadly, as her quieter persona hurt her in the end.

84. Mimi Imfurst (Season 3). Mimi would’ve gone the distance had she not lifted up India. Her personality was off putting but hey, at least she had some compared to the other girls that season.

85. Lineysha Sparx (Season 5). One of the most physically stunning queens to ever enter the werk room (both as a boy and a queen). And yes, I thought her rendition of Celia Cruz was hilarious for all the wrong reasons.

86Rebecca Glasscock (Season 1). It’s pretty much known by longtime RPDR fans that Rebecca should not have been in the top three, nor anywhere near the top that season. She got by on looks with little to back anything else up. But, regardless, she made it to the finale that season over someone way more deserving: Ongina.

87. Milan (Season 4). So underrated when it came to her lip sync abilities. She destroyed Madame, Kenya and almost Jiggly in her effort to win the season 4 crown. 

88. Mrs. Kasha Davis (Season 7). “There’s always time for a cocktail.” Should’ve been the one to come back instead of Trixie, but I understand why that didn’t happen.

89. April Carrion (Season 6). She got royally screwed in season 6. Sort of shocked she hasn’t been asked to do All Stars yet (she actually campaigned for it during the S6 reunion).

90. DiDa Ritz (Season 4). Love DiDa and her personality, but I struggle to still find out she made it to the top 5 in her season.

91. Serena Chacha (Season 5). She’s only this high on the list for the fact that she took on her entire cast in Untucked during the second episode and was delusional enough to believe she was in the right the entire time.

92. Tammie Brown (Season 1). Was the first queen to really get into it with Ru at one of the reunions. It took almost ten years for that to happen again. Also… “I don’t see you walking children in nature” and “Teleport us to Mars” is just… well, iconic.

93. Dusty Ray Bottoms (Season 10). Dusty had a great style and edge to her, and gave Monet a run for her money during the lip sync to Nicki Minaj’s “Pound the Alarm.”

94. Monica Beverly Hillz (Season 5). Monica was very brave to open up about being a transgender woman on the show. I wish she would’ve lasted longer but she seemed defeated the entire time.

95. Madame LaQueer (Season 4). Don’t wear green... ever… at least in front of Michelle Visage.

96. Jasmine Masters (Season 7). Jasmine’s most memorable moment was when Nina Bo’Nina Brown impersonated her on Snatch Game.

97. Mystique Summers Madison (Season 2). I’m not really keen on them doing another All Stars season, but Mystique would benefit from being on it given her amazing transformation over the past couple of years. Also... “I AM FROM CHICAGO!”

98. Jade Jolie (Season 5). You gotta give Jade this: she was able to read the house down for someone who was very reserved. We wouldn’t have the legendary “back rolls” comment from Alyssa Edwards if she didn’t say it originally.  

99. Vivacious (Season 6). Not sure if I should write Vivacious or Ornacia here.

100. Victoria Porkchop Parker (Season 1). The first queen to ever be eliminated on RPDR. I love how RuPaul finds a way to speak about her at every reunion, further solidifying her legendary status on this show.

101. Laila McQueen (Season 8). Such a cutie but got so screwed early on that season.

102. The Princess (Season 3). One of the few bald-headed queens (Sasha Velour, Ongina) from RPDR. Had a great aesthetic that would’ve been fun to watch had she made it further. Darn, those quiet personalities.

103. Nicole Paige Brooks (Season 2) … “from Atlanta, Georgia.”

104. Yuhua Hamasaki (Season 10). ANKH ANKH!

105. Akashia (Season 1). Arguably the best lip syncer in the show’s debut season. And let’s not forget her epic fall on the runway which she turned into something seriously fierce a second later.

106. Tempest DuJour (Season 7). I personally loved Tempest and her personality. However, she was sent home twice in the same season. Ouch.

107. Kimora Blac (Season 9). Adjective.

108. Kelly Mantle (Season 6). The judges WERE NOT feeling her bacon.

109. Jaymes Mansfield (Season 9). Super cute and quirky but was swallowed whole by the big personalities of season 9.

110. Sonique (Season 2). Just never seemed like she really wanted to be there.

111. Dax ExclamationPoint (Season 8). I liked Dax’s viewpoint as a cosplay sort of queen, but her attitude both episodes was really her downfall.

112. India Ferrah (Season 3). Sweet queen, but only remembered for being lifted up by Mimi Imfurst.

113. Charlie Hides (Season 9). Her lip sync had more excuses than actual footsteps taken during it.

114. Lashaun Beyond (Season 4). “Post Apo-po-lop-tic” (SP?)

115. Phoenix (Season 3). Her showdown with India Ferrah during the werk room entrance was so dramatic and over the top but amazing nonetheless.

116. Vivienne Pinay (Season 5). Overconfident fish.

117: Honey Mahogany (Season 5). Caftan.

118. Sasha Belle (Season 7). “I kind of misunderstood the assignment.”

119. Jade (Season 1). Fierce but got destroyed by Rebecca Glasscock in her lip sync. 

120. Magnolia Crawford (Season 6). Quite possibly the most negative person to ever be on RPDR.

121. Naysha Lopez (Season 8). The most pointless bring back ever.

122. Kalorie Karbdashian Williams (Season 10). She knew how to make that ass jiggle. I’ll give her that.

123. Kandy Ho (Season 7). I struggle to find anything that she did good outside of her several lip syncs that she was in (which were great).

124: Alisa Summers (Season 4). Her one hilarious point from season 4 was mentioning how she could’ve turned it out in the first lip sync had she worn sneakers like Jiggly Caliente did.

125: Venus D'Lite (Season 3). Her attitude during the one episode she was there was really off putting, and she made the lip sync against Shangela really uncomfortable to watch.

126: Penny Tration (Season 5). You should be lucky you even made it onto this list when the one who sent you home was Serena Chacha.

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject.

Trinity Taylor Plays a Hysterical Trick on Straight Men Everywhere

RuPaul's Drag Race season 9 finalist Trinity Taylor has come up with a hilarious game that she is calling the 'Str8 Guy Challenge.'

The concept of this is very simple: "Str8 guy challenge... I want u guys to show this pic to ur dads, brothers, uncles , cousins who are truly str8.. tweet me their response!!!"

Here's the photo:

 

 

 

A post shared by Trinity "The Tuck" Taylor (@trinitythetuck) on

 

The responses she got from her fans who actually went out of their way to test their heterosexual friends and family members is amusing the say the least.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So in the end, some figured it out, some definitely didn't, and in the end Trinity got what she wanted... except for the season 9 crown (no tea, no shade)! 

Several Queens Who Could Be on 'RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 4'

Rumors have been swirling for a couple of weeks now that RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 4 is coming back sooner than later, even though a rather dull All Stars 3 just finished a couple of months ago. This was right before the premiere of season 10 of RuPaul's Drag Race, which just finished last week. What. A. Drag.

OK, so let's hypothetically say that All Stars 4 is happening. Who should be on it? After careful consideration, reporting, polls, eating at a bunch of fast food and listening to every single song these queens have done since season one, I have came up with who I think should be on the (potential) upcoming season):

NO ONE. 

Not a single queen needs to return just yet. For the love of shirtless Jake Gyllenhaal, let this freaking concept breathe for a couple of years. Would we want to see the summer Olympics every year outside of all the nudity? No (ok maybe, but still). 

The special aspect that this show has brought to our community has been dwindling for years now. AS4 should not be anywhere near having a premiere date until at least 2020. And if it does premiere sooner, queens from seasons 9 and 10 should not be on them whatsoever, no matter what your position is.

Were you a star on the show in 2017 and 2018? Yes. An "All Star" though? No, not yet. It takes time to develop your brand post-show that allows you to become that sort of queen. I think that's what the purpose of the word "All Star" is: making something for yourself outside of a show that brought you fame and fortune. There have been many that have done and and others that have faded back into obscurity. Just chill for a bit and make your mark, then come back. 

Do I think the "All Star" concept has brought certain queens careers back to life or brought them a new fan base? Of course. But it is becoming a force-fed situation with this show, and there is nothing wrong with chilling the f**k out so we aren't ruining something so awesome.

There are a ton of queens who I definitely think deserve another shot at the crown after the absolute disaster All Stars 1 was. But, we just wrapped two seasons of this show in six months with S11 more than likely premiering six months from now. It's just overkill at this point. 

So in my humble opinion, I hope to not see a preview for anything related to All Stars until 2020. Let's keep this as the present we know we want to open, and not that sweater from Grandma that you will throw out the minute you get home.

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject.

 

Does it Matter That a Big Girl Hasn't Won 'Drag Race' Yet?

Season 10 of RuPaul's Drag Race concluded last Thursday with New York's very own Aquaria taking home the crown. 

Aquaria, as talented as she is, follows in a line of 10 seasons of queens who all have one major thing in common: they were in really good shape when they won (and continue to be to this day).

Over the course of almost ten years of Drag Race, many plus-size queens have entered the werk room with the goal of winning the $100,000 dollar grand prize and the title of America's Next Drag Superstar. Yet none of them have actually won it yet. Is this a glaring problem that the show is only exacerbating? Is it a societal issue regarding people with size? Or does size really not matter in a competition like this?

Several plus size queens have gone the distance on RPDR, with many coming close to winning. Let's break down each season and how far they got:

Victoria "Porkchop" Parker (Season 1): 9th Place

Mystique Summers Madison (Season 2): 10th Place

Mimi Imfurst (Season 3): 11th Place

Stacy Layne Matthews (Season 3): 8th Place

Delta Work (Season 3): 7th Place

Madame LaQueer (Season 4): 10th Place

Jiggy Caliente (Season 4): 8th Place

Latrice Royale (Season 4): 4th Place

Penny Tration (Season 5): 14th Place

Roxxxy Andrews (Season 5): Runner-Up

Darienne Lake (Season 6): 4th Place

Ginger Minj (Season 7): Runner-Up

Kim Chi (Season 8): Runner-Up

Eureka (Season 9): 11th Place (Taken out due to injury)

Kalorie Karbdashian Williams (Season 10): 13th Place

Eureka (Season 10): Runner-Up 

It's interesting when you look at the statistics of the big girls from RPDR. None of them made it far in the first three seasons, with many making very early exits. My theory was that they wanted Mimi to go the distance a bit, but she picked up India Ferrah and that was that.

Latrice became the first big girl to really give the others a run for their money, and would've been serious competition against Chad Michaels and Sharon Needles (sorry Phi Phi) had she made it into the top three. Roxxxy was never going to win season 5, as she was a huge villain  and it would've made the fan base of the show erupt in a really bad way. Darienne was lucky to have made it into the top 4, IMHO. That spot should've been for BenDeLaCreme

Season 7 was the first one to have a true big girl contender in the finale with Ginger. If Katya wasn't going to win, then Ginger should have. I think that season was really made for her, as she fit into so many categories that could've put her into the winners circle but her attitude made a lot of the audience shift to either Pearl or Violet Chachki with the latter coming out with the W. 

If Bob the Drag Queen wasn't on Season 8, then Kim would've won. Bob was just unstoppable. I always wonder how far Eureka would've gone on her original season, as she was doing great up until the whole injury thing. Just like Ginger, she really did an amazing job throughout her own season this past year but the pendulum swung towards the north again and crowned Aquaria the winner (4 out of the past 5 winners have been from NYC).

So will a big girl ever really win this game, or does weight have anything to do with this? I asked my friends their thoughts and this is what they said:

"They should win because they're fat?"

"Yeah, I mean, I would rather a big girl win because she deserves it. Not just because she's a big girl."

"Conversely big girls have done extremely well post #DragRace. I do see the point though."

"I'm waiting for that Big girl that is all about being talented instead of a fat joke to appease the audience."

"We already have a plus size winner of Drag Race! Jinkx (Monsoon) just took a few years to get there! (Her words not mine lol)."

"Eureka doesn’t deserve to win just because she’s a plus size girl. This takes away from Aquaria who worked her ass off and deserved to win just as much as any of the top queens. Just because Eureka didn’t win doesn’t mean you can shade Aquaria’s hard work."

"I think the bigger problem is that we choose to lean towards contestants based on size as opposed to talent. It’s like reverse size-ism."

What are your thoughts on this subject?

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject. 

My Sincerest Apologies to Eureka O'Hara

When you are a writer, journalist, blogger, or whatever you call yourself, sometimes you have a hard time distinguishing your in real life experiences compared to the ones that are only on the internet. 

We have a way of being able to write about topics without ever having to deal with who we are discussing in real life, and when we do, your mindset can change completely and make you rethink about the words you typed in the first place.

I was lucky enough to attend the RuPaul's Drag Race crowning on Thursday night in New York City, where I got to once again talk to the three finalists: Asia O'Hara, Kameron Michaels and Eureka, as well as the season 10 winner Aquaria. I originally spoke with them a couple of months back before the show premiered in March.

Asia and Kameron were two queens who I never really wrote anything bad or too negative about when it came to my reviews of the show each week on Instinct. However, I will fully admit that what I wrote about Eureka and Aquaria was particularly rough, but my focus here is strictly on the "elephant queen" herself in terms of one particular piece that was published back in May.

The article focused on if she was being force-fed for us to like, which I noticed many people took that comment as a way of fat-shaming, which is 110 percent not true. I look back on what I wrote and realized what a horrible mistake it was to judge someone that harshly when they are out there living their authentic life and putting themselves out there on such a major platform like RPDR while I was simply sitting in my room and judging on a level that wasn't necessary.

I came to this conclusion for a couple of reasons. When I saw Eureka again on Thursday night, she couldn't have been more kind, sweet, and an overall blast to be around. Her passion for drag and her fans is quite evident from the moment she opens her mouth, and she has a tenacity about herself that most people in our community wish they had. It was here where I realized that what I said a month ago was really wrong, and for that, Eureka, I do apologize.

I also spoke with Asia right before the finale aired, and saw the downfall of her lip sync performance along with millions of other people. Since Thursday, my social media has nothing but butterfly memes that poke fun at Asia (whether people want to see it that way or not), and it actually made me physically ill.

Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic in my approach here, but it took both situations for me to realize that what I wrote wasn't cool. Even though Pride Month is over, being kind to one another isn't. 

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject. 

 

 

'RPDR' Star Kameron Michaels on Shania, Her Career, and That Epic Reunion Shade

Kameron Michaels became the RuPaul's Drag Race equivalent of "the little engine that could" on season 10. The Tennessee native proved a major point in that you don't have to be loud and in your face to go far on this show, and her quiet demeanor but powerful stage presence catapulted her into the top four alongside Eureka, Asia O'Hara and Aquaria.

Many other queens in the beginning of the season were favored to take it all, which can sometimes play out the right way (Aquaria) and other times not so much (Mayhem Miller). Kameron was seen as a bit of an underdog throughout by some of her other queens (The Vixen saying "we're really going to miss you next week" during the reading challenge) but she persevered in every single challenge while slaying the f**k out of each lip sync she had to do.

Sadly, Kameron did not win Season 10, but was able to get herself into the top three as she bested Asia in part one of the lip sync for your crown portion of the finale. That doesn't mean anything in the long run, as she's developed a major following because of her presence on RPDR and has a bright future that go beyond the sets of an edited television show.

I got to speak with Kameron one on one at the actual crowning event for season 10 at Samsung 837 in the Meatpacking District of New York City on Thursday night. She told me about how she felt when everyone came for her at the reunion, how Shania was and always will be her idol, and the one lip sync she wished she would've partaken in this season. Take a look. 

Were you upset at the reunion with the feedback from everyone else, notably Monique Heart and Dusty Ray Bottoms?

Umm... yeah! I think you can see it on my face. I was surprised, and then I was angry. Because we have a different relationship off the show, so we got to know each other for 4-6 months after filming and off camera, and I think what happened was the girls got back in that moment of filming right before we left, or before they left the show, and I think a lot feelings and emotions came up. So yeah, it surprised me, but I’ve since talked to both of them, hung out with both of them and we are so great now. I just saw Monique last night and we had a blast.

Are you freaking that you might be the winner in about two hours?

No. Everyone keeps asking me that! Why would I be nervous? I was like, ‘I was there, I know what happens.’ We don’t know the results, but we are all going to be surprised and I’m not nervous about that. It’s been a great run for all of us and no matter what happens I am more than happy with my experience on the show. I could not ask to be in a better position.

Facts are facts: you are a lip sync assassin. I was mind blown at how you were able to pull all of that off.

That’s the great conversation about me is that I’m so quiet, and then the spotlight comes on me and I light up. And that is who I am as a person. I don’t talk a whole lot, but when I’m on stage, I’m present and I am there.

Did you have a favorite lip sync of the season? It could be yours or someone else’s.

You know what lip sync I really wanted to do the most? A lot of the songs I do are very uppity and happy, and I get to smile a lot. All of the lip syncs I did, they weren’t very like... girly. I do a lot of Ariana Grande, and one lip sync that I didn’t get to do was “Cut to the Feeling” by Carly Rae Jepsen. That was the Snatch Game episode. I thought I was going home that episode, I thought I was lip syncing. Looking back on it, though, my thought process changed. However, I knew that song like the back of my hand, and I wanted to perform Carly Rae Jepsen so bad.

I may already know the answer, but was your favorite guest judge Shania Twain?

Of course! For me to be a child and to listen to her music on repeat as a baby drag queen in my house when I was six or seven years old... the fact that I got to sit in front of her and tell her she is my idol was iconic.

I don’t think the younger generation, maybe Aquaria (no shade) realizes just how big Shania really was and still is.

Before I found Celine (Dion), before I found Cher, Shania was my idol. Because my aunts took me to Opryland, they took me to any kind of country events: Billy Ray Cyrus, Diamond Rio, I mean I can’t even remember all the old country artists, but I always grew up on country music and that’s why she was my idol.

What are you looking forward to in the future regarding your booming drag career?

What’s funny is that the little bit of tension and the sadness that you saw in me at the reunion was because I was back in that environment. It was a blessing, but it didn’t feel like it at the time. Prior to that I was touring, and getting to do my own thing, and being on the road, and meeting fans, and getting to do my own music, and that’s what I love to do is performing so I am looking forward to doing that again.

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Asia O'Hara Breaks Down What Happened During The Butterfly Ordeal

Spoiler alerts ahead in case you haven't watched the RuPaul's Drag Race finale or know the outcome just yet. So click on something else if you don't want to know what happened. Maybe take a look at our Hottie of the Week Tony Vega! 

The Season 10 finale of RuPaul's Drag Race aired on VH1 last night, where New York City queen Aquaria won the title of America's Next Drag Superstar and bested her other three competitors in the process (Eureka, Kameron Michaels, Asia O'Hara).

It was the second season in a row where it became a lip sync for the crown sort of ordeal as opposed to RuPaul simply announcing the winner at the end of the finale. Ru spun a wheel to see who would be the one to choose their opponent in the first round of the lip sync battle, where the other two would compete against one another by default.

The wheel landed on Kameron, who chose to compete against Asia. Two of Janet Jackson's songs were ones the queens had to lip sync to, where Kameron and Asia got her 1986 classic hit "Nasty" in the process (Eureka and Aquaria got "If" and both stayed in a surprise twist). 

This is where things went really, really wrong for Asia who was considered to be a major front runner since the beginning of the season. She had a couple of tricks within her outfit as opposed to doing a simple reveal that sort of mimicked what Sasha Velour did in season 9 with her rose petals.

She had live butterflies that were supposed to fly out from some of the garments she was wearing, but alas, none of them really did and many just fell to the ground (from the looks of it, they were alive). It got many people in the audience confused, notably her fellow S10 queen Monique Heart who had quite the hilarious reaction (as usual).

In the end, Kameron bested Asia who couldn't really recover from the butterfly malfunction and Asia was eliminated from the competition. 

She took to her Instagram to explain what went down after the finale aired, and what she plans on doing for animal rights in the future as there was some backlash regarding how the butterflies were potentially treated.

 

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"I just want to let everyone know how sad and heartbroken I am by the way my lip sync performance during the finale of RuPaul's Drag Race turned out. Despite months of research and rehearsing with a professional company, what I hoped would be an amazing and safe display of optimism, and a surprise for everyone including production and the network, it did not go as planned. I would like to publicly offer the entire world my deepest apology. It's important that everyone knows that I would never purposefully hurt any living being and have the utmost respect for all animals."

"If you are unhappy with me, I understand. I have been unhappy with myself since that night but I'm going to do my best to make it right. Over the next year, my friends and I will be donating over 100 volunteer hours to the ASPCA, an organization that has dedicated to the fair treatment of animals since 1866.  I can't apologize enough for what happened. I want my fans and the world to know that I'll continue to be humble, own my mistakes, and lead with love and light."

What are your thoughts on Asia's response? 

 

 

 

Who Gets Your Vote to Win Season 10 of 'RuPaul's Drag Race?'

The day has finally arrived, hunties! Tonight, either Kameron Michaels, Eureka, Asia O'Hara or Aquaria will be crowned the winner of RuPaul's Drag Race.

One of these four queens will join in a legendary lineup of past winners that include Bebe Zahara Benet, Tyra Sanchez, Raja, Sharon Needles, Jinkx Monsoon, Bianca Del Rio, Violet Chachki, Bob the Drag Queen and Sasha Velour

Each of the four queens have some immense strengths to them that could easily make them the winner in roughly 12 hours from now. On the flip side, they have some negatives that could prevent them from getting that crown placed upon their head.

Let's break down the strengths and weaknesses of each queen left and try to come to a conclusion on who has the best shot at really winning tonight.

Aquaria

Strengths:

  • Aquaria is very similar to how Violet was on her season in terms of her incredible fashion knowledge that was apparent from day one. 
  • She also was surprisingly funny and a great actress during some of the challenges, notably Snatch Game as Melania Trump and BreastWorld as Dyslexa.
  • Her attitude changed completely as the show went on, going from being a bit of a brat to a maturity that was noticed by others including Asia, who harped on her for her behavior several times.
  • She won three challenges, and never had to lip sync. Only a handful of queens have been able to do that in the past, with many of them actually winning (Tyra, Bianca, Violet, Sasha).

Weaknesses:

  • She might be a little too green and reserved to take on a lot of this. I've interviewed her before, and she comes across as quiet which can read as cold. That won't really be appreciated by a lot of the RPDR fan base, particularly the older ones.

Kameron Michaels:

Strengths:

  • She brought something totally new to the show this season with her "muscle queen" aesthetic. Each winner of the show has done something completely different from the other title holders, so her physique and how she's able to change that when she gets into drag could be considered a strength.
  • Kameron is proof that you don't need to be loud and attention-seeking to win the show. Her quiet nature has helped her get to the end of the show, even to some of the other queens dismissal.
  • Besides, Monet X Change, the best lip syncer of the season.

Weaknesses:

  • None of the other queens chose her to win. They also accused her of pretty much ignoring them when they are all around. There's something to be said about that.
  • She only won one challenge and had to lip sync three times in a row.
  • Even though her quiet ability can be a strength, it can also be seen as a weakness as none of the past competitors were this reserved when they were on the show.

Asia O'Hara

Strengths:

  • Incredibly head strong and focused. Knows how to command attention and speaks very eloquently.
  • Fashion point was pretty much on game this entire time, as she came a close second for me behind Aquaria in that department.
  • She's a true "sister." The only one to stand up for The Vixen at the reunion and actually battled with RuPaul over it.

Weaknesses:

  • Acting and comedy aren't really her thing. Not sure if that equals anything in the real world, but it didn't come across well on the show.
  • Might be a bit too brash for some of the fan base.

Eureka

Strengths:

  • The most fashion-forward big girl the show has ever seen outside of Kim Chi.
  • She really did excel at coming back after being eliminated early in S9 and performed very well throughout the season.
  • In your face, say it like you mean it kind of queen... for the most part.
  • Unapologetic for who she is in terms of personality, size and more.

Weaknesses:

  • I fear that she will win simply for being a big girl. 
  • Just like Asia, her personality is a turn off by some.
  • Some may see her coming back as an advantage over the other queens.

To be honest, it comes down to Aquaria versus Eureka for me, and I think that is how it will play out tonight. Who will come out on top? I'm rooting for Aquaria, primarily because she's had the most growth this season, her fashion is just so much fun to look at and she will once again bring NYC another Drag Race crown (4th overall).

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject. 

 

Is The Vixen a Victim, Misunderstood, or Something Else?

The Vixen has easily been one of the most polarizing and controversial drag queens to ever enter the werk room on RuPaul's Drag Race... whether she wants to see it that way or not.

From the minute she walked in and uttered the words "I just came here to fight," many of us knew that we were in for something when it came to this Chicago-based queen. We didn't know what at that point, and to be quite honest, many of us still don't all this time later.

It's hard to really pinpoint one particular word to describe The Vixen after she became the most talked about queen from season 10 (outside of Vanessa "Vanjie" Matteo for much different reasons). It's pretty incredible, for both of them, how neither made it even close to the final four and yet they are the most memorable.

There are two fights that The Vixen was apart of that made the RPDR fan base discuss her overall persona in a very debatable kind of way. The first fight was with the whole Miz Cracker and. Aquaria situation that she got involved in. The second one was the battle between her and Eureka, which quite frankly made the ones between Sharon Needles and Phi Phi O'Hara look like a play fight between two best friends compared to how these two behaved with one another.

She got eliminated after the Cher challenge, and the season after her exit became a bit dull to watch with little to no drama between the remaining queens. Then, the season 10 reunion happened last Thursday, and we were all left completely gob smacked over what really went down.

In my opinion, this situation went far beyond "get your popcorn ready" or "ooh this is some good tea" as it was much more of a real life situation for The Vixen, Eureka, RuPaul and everyone else on that stage plus the millions of people who were watching at home.

So the question remains... is The Vixen a victim, misunderstood or something else after all of this went down? 

I'll say some positives about The Vixen to begin. She's very well-spoken, intelligent, and brought a really great perspective to this show that we haven't seen before. She also knows how to beat a mug really well and her outfits throughout the season were really enjoyable to watch (my favorite being her runway look after the panel challenge). And yes, she even had some cute one liners during Snatch Game when she played Blue Ivy Carter (the way she said "fat" and looked at Eureka was pretty funny). 

Do I think she's innocent in all of this? No. She instigated the whole Cracker/Aquaria thing whether she sees it that way or not. She didn't have to get involved, and she did, and because of this she got called out. No one came to her defense in that situation, and even Monet X Change literally got off her chair at the reunion to defend herself over claims that Cracker faked her way into getting on the show. So in this situation, she was in the wrong. 

The whole thing with her and Eureka is really fascinating. I for one am not Eureka's biggest fan. I can understand how the other S10 queens were more than likely cold to her during the beginning of the season, as she knew how the show operated, she probably had some good touring money to afford some better drag outfits than the others (allegedly), and had a second chance which has really only happened to a couple of queens in the past. 

Did The Vixen full on admit that she went into S10 with some pre-conceived notions about Eureka? Yes. Was Eureka completely innocent in that insane fight between the two of them on Untucked? Nope. Both of these queens are very opinionated in their own ways, and the situation was never going to get resolved as their voices got louder and louder. 

To be honest, I was a bit on Eureka's side during the whole fight between the two of them, until the reunion happened when Vixen pretty much said that she was playing this whole thing for television. Not only that, but she also admitted to "testing" her. This is what i mean when it comes to Eureka being innocent... she wasn't. Did she want to maybe resolve the issue with Vixen so that they could have a genuine friendship? Sure. Could it also be that she wanted to look good for TV and be the bigger person here (no shade) and make The Vixen look bad? Absolutely. 

The one sentence from the reunion that really got to me is when The Vixen said "everyone is telling me how to react but no one is telling her how to act." It sorts of fits the narrative that Eureka has gotten all season, in that (in my opinion once again) they gave her a remarkable edit of the queen who got tragically sent home in S9 and persevered a year later. If anything, The Vixen was the one to be the interesting deterrent in that storyline that perhaps the show didn't want but it happened regardless. 

The reunion was hard to watch for many reasons, as the only queen that stood up for The Vixen was Asia O'Hara,which kind of mimicked what happened during the season as well. I got very emotional watching Asia tear up, in that not one single queen went to go check on The Vixen after she left. Not even RuPaul, and these are supposed to be her "girls." Instead, Ru harped over and over again about how this was a "leading a horse to water" type of situation where you can only do so much for someone who doesn't want to listen.

But did no one want to listen to her? Was her narrative so negative at that point that anything she said was completely moot? If that's the case, then she had every right to leave as not one person stood up for her minus Asia. Then she left, Asia and Ru got into it, and then they did their best to seamlessly go to the next topic. The problem is... the whole ordeal was left completely unfinished and Eureka remained on the stage somewhat unscathed. 

So now with the season close to being over (the finale is in three nights), you have to wonder what her legacy will be for years to come. I don't think The VIxen should ever do an All Stars season for redemption as she has really nothing to redeem. She was blunt, honest, open, and true to herself where a lot of these queens play to the camera in order to get hundreds of thousands of social media followers who see them as the nice, sweet hero and not an authentically real person.

Was The Vixen flawed in her attempts during the show? Perhaps. Does she deserve to be judged to the point of getting a major social media backlash and having to leave a reunion for a show that she worked really hard to be part of? F**k no. So in conclusion, what is The Vixen?

If anything... she's herself. And that is a truly awesome thing to be in this day and age. 

This was created by one of our Contributing Writers and does not reflect the opinion of Instinct Magazine or the other Contributing Writers when it comes to this subject. 

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